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30/07/2010 21:19:20
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topic:
curfew
John Reardon
Posts 33
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Whichfinder, have you read the terms and conditions on the BBC have your say boards? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/terms/#page-top)
If you honestly believe the deleted messages on this forum were generally pretty mild then I suggest you have not seen them.
Also, many of the users?? I currently count three who are unhappy with the current situation. If there are more please stand up and be counted. As I said before there are 240 users registered with this Forum.
We could make changes to this Forum, like closing it! Why not address your concerns to the Parish Council meeting in August. Oh, one problem though, you would have to do it in person.
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30/07/2010 15:01:26
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topic:
curfew
Witchfinder Specific
Posts 28
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I doubt that anybody actively wants to see abuse on the forum. Those suggesting that anyone against these restrictions is somehow in favour of abusive comments are peddling a ludicrous strawman argument.
The dividing line seems to be more around what constitutes abusive posting. The forum administrators seem to what to run this place as some sort of vicar’s tea party, with only the meekest and mildest banalities expressed. Many of the users, on the other hand, would prefer it to be a bit more like real life – yes, you occasionally have to tolerate the bores and the drunks, but you get much more interesting discussion overall.
I’ve been on here long enough to have seen some of the messages that have subsequently been deleted, and they are generally pretty mild. Log onto the BBC ‘have your say’ boards, or the comment pages of any national or local newspaper and you will see things that would give the mods here a fit of the vapours. And guess what? Those forums don’t collapse; the publishers don’t get sued; the other members either ignore the perpetrators or take them to task themselves.
It should take a lot for your message to get deleted, and I think the bar is currently set far too low. I just don’t believe that there is sufficient abuse on here to warrant the restrictions being imposed.
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30/07/2010 09:58:04
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topic:
curfew
John Reardon
Posts 33
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Well done for ignoring abusive comments but they have no place on this Forum. That is why we have to act. Who called you Racist and in what string? All strings are still on here if you use the search facility with key words.
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29/07/2010 21:58:24
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topic:
curfew
scooby
Posts 105
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Mr Reardon, going back to what you said previously that" a couple of postings over the last few months" were not appropriate, and I agree I saw one of them that horrified me, but I assumed it was from someone just come out of the pub and feeling a bit bored. Yes I was offended, but treated it with the contempt it deserved by ignoring it, just as I ignored the comment from a contributor that accused my neighbours and myself of being racist for objecting to certain planning applications that affected us. I, like many others are grown ups that know how to deal with these situations. You will always come across people in this world that are rude and offensive in any given situation. I have always taught my children that the best way to deal with undesirable comments etc is to totally ignore them, that way you have the upperhand as you do not sink to their level or run away from them.
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29/07/2010 21:28:06
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topic:
curfew
Jeanne d'Arc
Posts 80
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Very obvious point here. There would be no need for curfews at all if people adhered to basic good manners and good taste! Self expression does NOT mean the right to be abusive or offensive.
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29/07/2010 18:27:36
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topic:
curfew
John Reardon
Posts 33
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When the forum is closed to new postings it is closed to new postings world wide.
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29/07/2010 16:43:34
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topic:
curfew
scooby
Posts 105
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In the past we have had contributors on the forum and probably still do from america and other countries does the time difference prevent them from being able to contribute?
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29/07/2010 13:25:14
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topic:
curfew
Tiny
Posts 141
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˙˙˙dn ʎɐʍ ʇɥƃıɹ ǝɥʇ ɯnɹoɟ ǝɥʇ pǝɹɹǝɟǝɹd ı uoıʇɔǝlɟǝɹ uo
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28/07/2010 21:52:41
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topic:
curfew
John Reardon
Posts 33
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That's easy for you to say!
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28/07/2010 21:13:48
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topic:
curfew
StEVEN
Posts 15
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ǝɹɐ noʎ ǝsnɐɔǝq s,ʇɐɥʇ
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28/07/2010 18:53:59
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topic:
curfew
Tiny
Posts 141
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˙˙˙˙˙˙ǝƃuɐɹʇs ʇıq ɐ ןǝǝɟ ı
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28/07/2010 18:31:07
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topic:
curfew
Kevin Fulcher
Posts 101
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Tiny might hate analogies, but not as much as a councillor or the Parish Clerk hates having to log on in the middle of the night to remove some gratuitously offensive and potentially libellous posting (and there was one VERY nasty one a while back), I'll bet.
I have found no restriction on free speech on this Forum, this is not China, and I've always felt at complete liberty to express my opinions. What the curfew does is delay the sharing of one's deathless prose, incisive insights and superb logic for a few hours.
If, however, you want instant self-gratification, I suggest you try some other sites!
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28/07/2010 18:25:04
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topic:
curfew
Jamesfro
Posts 1
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Whilst i can understand the views raised. The simple issue is"Do you want to see abuse, bad language, and unjust comment posted on OUR Forum".
Should the Parish Council run open house for all those with ill will or does it take a measured approach to prevent this?
Please decide which side of the fence we should be on
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28/07/2010 17:35:37
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topic:
curfew
Peter Spearink
Posts 111
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Yes you're right again you are wrong again. Work that one out.
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28/07/2010 15:22:53
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topic:
curfew
Tiny
Posts 141
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I take it CD that you became a parent out of choice, like most parents. You therefore made a commitment to put in any effort required to look after them and to be tolerant even if they do not turn out quite how you would have liked...
I suppose I'm wrong again, lmao, but I hate analogies
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28/07/2010 14:25:07
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topic:
curfew
Creative_Dynamo
Posts 17
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As the parent of small children, I must say that the positions taken by some contributors here remind me of children:
- they want somebody else to provide them with exactly what they want (in this case the forum) in exactly the form they want it with no regard for the effort required.
- they want the absolute right to use, not use or abuse the facility as they see fit with somebody else clearing up any mess left behind afterwards.
- they have no interest whatsoever in the difficulties experienced by those providing them with facilites and any restrictions imposed, however reasonable, are met with howls of protest.
Personally, I think it is a shame that a curfew has had to be imposed (I sometimes keep late hours myself), but anyone who has kept abreast of the subject should understand why it has been done. Parish councillors are no different to you or I (except in their willingness to give time to the community) and they have every right to be concerned about what personal liability they may be exposed to while providing us, essentially free of charge, with a useful facility.
The curfew idea is probably the LEAST draconian restriction which could be imposed short of taking no action at all, and compared to losing the forum altogether seems a small price to pay.
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28/07/2010 14:05:17
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topic:
High Street Fire Public Meeting
Peter Spearink
Posts 111
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Thank you for pointing that out. It is now done. Hope to see you there.
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28/07/2010 13:02:05
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topic:
curfew
John Reardon
Posts 33
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Well you can't please all the people all the time but 238 from 240 isn't bad is it?
I'm sure the number will change slightly now but it has a way to go before dropping out of the very good category.
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28/07/2010 12:48:16
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topic:
curfew
Peter Spearink
Posts 111
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Wrong again, Tiny.
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28/07/2010 12:16:41
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topic:
curfew
Tiny
Posts 141
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That's a nice attitude, basically if you don't like it (and don't live in China), go and set up your own forum!
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